Brithos & Foreign Policy
Me:
Zzabur: Sorcerer Supreme, sank whole Land of Vadeli Infidels and Spike,
horde of Demons from Hell....brought back Ehilm to the Sky, had assassins
take Hrestol's Life, sank the whole fleet of Emperor Miglos, helped God
Learners conquering Glorantha (See Glo: Intro HW p.45) , betrayed them and
moved Brithos to somewhere unknown otherside aside from Closing, made a
plot to sank whole of Fronela, (but later it was stopped by the act of
Prince
Snodal and Syndics Ban, or he insisted so,.....)
I think, Brithini Leader was very powerful, and don't know restriction
except their fear to lose their Immortality in Mundane World, but simply
they haven't dared to use their power, but let their pupil God Learners to
do so.....
Peter Metcalph:
I think the Brithini are more subtle than
that. After all, most Gloranthans
fear death but their rulers still aspire
to take over the world.
IMO it needs to be borne in mind that the Talars,
and not Zzabur,
rule Brithos. Secondly I like to suggest that the Talars
have
usurped much of leadership functions that other castes have had
in
order to create a Talarcracy rather than the ancient republic
ruled jointly
by all castes.
An example of the Talarcracy in action is the structure of
the Brithini
army. Although Horals do the actual fighting, the Talars are
its generals
and officers. Surely when Malkion defined the original castes,
the Horals
would have had their own leaders? Likewise the Dronar farmers
are
probably similarly checked by Talar stewards.
The Zzaburi present
a difficult problem because Zzabur and his colleagues
are so great. IMO the
Talars have insulated the Zzaburi from the Brithini
and vice versa. Instead
of dealing with the Horals and Dronars directly as
might have been done in
the old days, the Zzaburi live in remote towers
and are heavily dependent on
the Talars to tell them what's going on and
what should be done.
I do
not believe that the Talars dominate Brithos solely for its own
power.
Instead they have memories of life during the Gods War when the
Castes
were all in confusion and squabbling with each other. Only the
Talars
imposition of order enabled Brithos to survive the great darkness.
Because
of this, the Talars view their social order as ideal and that any
tampering
with it inevitably sows the seeds of Brithos's
destruction.
Zzabur and the Talars probably keep in touch with each other
so that
both sides have a rough idea of what's being done (Zzabur plans
to
close the Oceans this week while the Talars are putting the finishing
touches
on a treaty with the God Learners) and if necessary make
other arrangements.
Neither can interfere with each other, one due
to lack of power and the other
due to lack of awareness so both work
together in harmony.
I don't
think Zzabur is at all concerned with the defense of Brithos
any more than
Orlanth is responsible for the defense of Dragon
Pass. Instead he pursues
his own schemes which the Talars
dimly understand. In defending their realm,
the Talars rely on the
Horals and lesser Zzaburi although they do have a
valuable weapon
in that they know what Zzabur will do.
So what is the
aims of the Talars of Brithos? For a start, they are
concerned with
maintaining their social dominance in Brithos. Being
Zzabur's henchmen is
probably one of the safest perpetual jobs in
glorantha. Likewise they have
an interest in minimizing foreign contact
with Brithos so that the Brithini
are kept away from new ideas.
From time to time, members of other castes
challenge the Talars'
rule. This isn't intentionally done but arises as they
try to understand
what it means to be a soldier, farmer or wizard. If the
Talars allow
them to do so, then they risk eroding their power. It may not
be
immediately obvious but with their long life spans, they can see
the
inevitable outcome in other Malkioni nations.
Because of this, the Talars
concede as little as possible and instead
prefer to exile the troublemakers.
I don't think Brithos is a land of
secret police, but rather than the Talars
convince the troublemakers
over the years that it's best for both that they
leave Brithos. The exiles
have the freedom to do what they feel they should
be doing while the
Talars see their wisdom of their order confirmed when most
exiles grow
old and die.
The need to maintain their own dominance
compels the Talars to
restrict the spread of strange ideas. If concepts like
every village
having its own wizard, great generals that rose from the ranks
or
belief in an afterlife became public knowledge in Brithos then
their
control over Brithini society would be much weakened. This
is the primary
reason why the Talars do not like wars of conquests
as the Horals will become
exposed to strange ideas with potentially
disastrous results - martial law
being the least of their fears.
On the other hand, isolationism is not an
option for the Talars. If
they do not keep the neighboring lands and seas
peaceful, then
they risk invasion and foreign ideas being forcibly introduced
into
Brithos.
For this reason, I believe the Talars maximize peaceful
relations
by encouraging their neighbors to be good, civilized
Malkioni.
Gifts of knowledge, magic and occasional exiles go a long way
in
spreading knowledge of Malkioni ideals and encouraging respect
for Brithos.
Ideally the Talars would like to see the whole world
malkionized which
explains their support for the Waertagi and later
the God Learners.
So
why did the God Learners go to war with Brithos? IMO the
Talars had been
allies of the Waertagi because they felt it best
to allow only one power that
to control access to Brithos.
But the Talars seriously underestimated the
growing power of the
Seshnegi, the Loskalmi and later the Jrusteli. When the
battle of
Tanian's Victory was fought, the Talar's were left foolish
because
a hostile power united by a doctrine hostile to Zzabur (the
Abiding
Book) was now capable of reaching Brithos.
I think the Talars
put off conflict with the God Learners as long as they
could with concessions
like Open Ports on the Brithini mainland. In
the meantime, they were trying
to find some way of persuading Zzabur
to assist without letting on that they
cocked everything up. When
Emperor Miglos's Fleet was sunk, the Brithini
used the Fireberg crisis
to force the God Learner Empire into making
concessions and an
alliance.
Why did Brithos close the Oceans? I
don't believe the Talars had
anything to do with the Closing as they were
probably quite happy
with the God Learner Empire as it was (cf similar
blindness and
happiness with the Waertagi alliance). Rather it was Zzabur
acting
on his own initiative because the God Learners were abusing his
arts
and that he could feel the consequences.