Legendary Tribes of Vingkot and Heort
Last Revised: 2004 / Feb / 02, add some more comments of Joerg.
Revised: 2004 / Jan / 27, with help of Joerg Baumgartner
Revised: 2004 / Jan / 20, according to my post to Glorantha Digest
Revised: 2004 / Jan / 07 According to New Information on the release of Dragon Pass: Land of Thunder, Add Orvantes Tribe
Gods Age: Demigods and Heroes
See Barbarian Adventures: Divine Clans like Hurt Everything Clan and Marks on Bark Clan....I hesitate to apply
mundane territories to their domains....
Hill Fort of Vingkotling
http://www.glorantha.com/new/heortling_hillforts.html
Greg Stafford comment about Immortality and Longevity of Vingkotling Kings
http://glorantha.kondalski.org/g9index/1633.html
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Me: Greg Stafford: Me: Greg Stafford: |
Reference: Broken Council Guidebook (BCG), Enclosure #1, 2, Thunder Rebels,
"Storm Age Map",
Storm Tribe "Jonstown Compendium", Wintertop's Shadow: Exile
Clan Generator.
Add Dragon Pass (Land of Thunder) Gazetteer (abbreviated as DPG) material.
(Jan / 2004)
Original Nine Tribes of Vingkotling:
From Jeff Richard's "The Saga of Vingkotling" in Enclosure #1
and Stephen Martin's "Daughters of Vingkot" in Enclosure #2
(But Greg tend to refuse dividing Divinity from Mortality in Gods Age
against some of Jeff Richard's Setting, as the divine clans in Barbarian
Adventures,
it might be contradict to future "official" setting, maybe this condition is similar to
the difference of German Mythology
and Irish Mythology about the One Arm God....while Tyr lost his
right hand and could not recover it...Nuada enthroned again with his Silver
Arm....
In Storm Age, Vingkotling (and Orlanthi, or Storm Tribe?) conquered this
world....
There is other groups of Orlanthi that are descendants of Orlanth, but not from On Jorri
and Vingkot, like Talastari (Line of Valarastans (Andini?: TR) later aggressively
opposed
Heortlings with their leader Loko Moko (Lokamayadon) and Bright Empire)
and Haranding (line of Drorgalar, another son of
Orlanth, Durevings?) (But some of Gloranthaphiles denied this opinion.)
SW = Summer Wife, WW=Winter Wife, the daughters of Tada
Storm Age before Stormfall
| Name | Founder(s) | Domain | Important Personalities | Note | Destiny |
| Kodigvari Summer |
Kodig, the eldest son of Vingkot and SW (His daughters are Arfritha and Deleen) |
Modern Esrolia (Kethaela) |
Rastagar the Last King, Jardfor and Kogall (Hidden Kings) King Broyan? |
High Kingship Tribe, only from this tribe of Eldest Son of Vingkot | After Disastrous Sword and Helm War, women uprose and banished Hidden Kings and followers, they began to follow only Old Earth Rites before Storm Gods emerged, as Esrolvuli. Even after Unity Battle, they followed Only Old One, not Heort. Liornvulli is from them (Jeff Richard). |
| Lastralgortelli Winter |
Janard, a son of Vingkot and WW | Oslir Valley (Sylila?) |
- | Most Valiant and Violent | Destroyed by Dara Happan Empire (Jeff Richard thinks they destroyed by E. Urvairinus, but Peter Metcalph has another idea), some of Star Tribes are from this tribe. |
| Koroltes Summer |
Korol Kandoros, a son of Vingkot and SW | Doriziland?(BCG): Modern Grazeland (Sevid?) Its Center was in Korolstead (Smoking Ruin Today) |
Heort's Winter Deer clan | Great Lawspeakers? See Hero Wars 1st Narrators Book (A Scenario for Koroltes) |
Forosilvulli was from them. As King Heort descent from them, it might be the holiest tribe of Vingkotling. |
| Jorganostelli Winter |
Jorganos Archer, a son of Vingkot and WW | Upper Oslir (Sevid: Modern Black Horse County?) | Jarani the Whitehair (Lawstaff) | Great Archers? | Devastated by the War against Harandings for Arrowmound, Stravuli was from
this tribe. <<I have a very personal reason to be curious about the fate of Jorganos the Archer. Apparently his people formed a plethora of tribes, two of which became prominent in Heort's time. The Jaranings appear to be extinct, at least in Dragon Pass, although we know little about the other side of the Skyreach range.(Joerg Baumgartner)>> |
| Berenethtelli Winter |
Beren(eth) the Rider and Redaylda, a daughter of Vingkot and WW | Modern Upper Saird (Reladivela: Harald Smith) | Venef the Stallion and other line of Rastalulf, Harmast Arlastor?(BCG) |
From North, Hyalorian? Red Headed Women? (Vingan?) | Hero Beren? and his horse Chakandar? (Chakandar Hills) I am not sure about
Beren (husband of Redaylda?) and Beren"neth"....? See also Ulaninstead,
maybe the two brother-in-laws are also brother-in-arms, or rivals? (all derived from DPG) Later it became most Heroic Tribe among Heortling, you know Harmast. |
| Orgorvaltes Summer |
Orgorvale, a daughter of Vingkot and SW and Ulanin the Rider | Quivin Land (Kerofinela) |
Ulanin the Rider (Cattle Raid? See "Red Cow", greatbull Gochbadan
and Ulanin) (DPG) Salvi the Good? (Descendant of Bran, see below) (DPG) |
From East, Horse Lovers? (Elmali?) | (I don't know why Heort was born in Orgovaltes Land, though he is a Koroltes....perhaps
that dangerous time between uzland and devastated Chaos land, only the
root of Quivin was relatively safe?)(DPG)
Their Domain perhaps Included Mystical Hill of Orlanth Victorious, and Old Wind Temple. Maybe they became the core of Orlanth Kingdom and Youf in 2nd Age. (See below).. |
| Infithetelli Winter |
Infithe, a daughter of Vingkot and WW, Porscriptor the Cannibal | Modern Northern Tarsh (New Land?) |
- | Savage and Furious, but loyal? | - |
| Vestantes Summer |
Vestene, a daughter of Vingkot and SW, Goralf Brown | Modern Southern Aggar |
Tenostere Fightin'est Woman | Axe People? Enemy of Aldryami? |
Later, this tribe was destroyed by Highking Alakoring for their support to EWF, and reformed into Tarkarling. |
| Penentelli Winter |
Penene, a daughter of Vingkot and WW, and Kastwall the Five | Modern North Aggar | Rastazar (BCG) |
Most Emotional? Five Sons | In Gbaji War, they were almost all wiped out by Arkat Army, maybe they are strong converters to Lokamayadon or some sects of Bright Empire, or simply Troll enemy. |
Peter Metcalph's Comment about Heortling Tribes
http://www.gloranthadigest.com/cgi-bin/message.py?ref=3965
| Name | Founder(s) | Domain | Important Personalities | Note | Destiny |
| Stravuli Star |
Stravul the Lean | Dinaros(BCG) Around Grizzly Peak? Later they retreated beyond Dragonspine, against Liornvuli |
Stravul and Koffer (Koffer Hills) (DPG) | From Jorganostelli, remnants of Arrowmound War | Grizzly Peak (there Vingkot killed Grizzly), the Center of High Kingship
and Earldoms might exist here? After Dawn, its power diminished in the
events of Stampede. Its remnant fled to the domain of Orgovaltes. (Formerly, sowford was boundary between Two Tribes (DPG)) |
| Liornvulli Star |
Liorn the Young, and Deleen, Kodig's daughter | Island Tribe (Kordros Island), Upper Oslir | See Silver and Dawn Age section | From Lastralgortelli (DPG), or Kodigvari (Jeff Richard) |
Aka Island Tribe, Kordros Isle, descent from Lastralgortelli (but its foundress
Deleen was from Kodigvari))
See Boarford, Stampede (p.30), Kaufonstead, Kordros Island
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| Forosilvulli Star |
Forosil the Ferocious, and Ornore, Korol's Daughter | Holay? Black Eel River (BCG) |
- | From Koroltes | Maybe from them, the tradition of Woman Queen began. |
| Orvantes Star |
- | Volsaxi Land and North Stormwalk Mountains | Orlgar? (See also Sedenorvuli) Bacofi of modern Volsaxar (See Northvale) (DPG) |
- | I don't know why they only appeared in Great Darkness among Vingkotling
and later disappeared from list of Heortling Tribes by Greg's setting.
Or they are related to Sedenorvulli? See Hartside (Hero Orlgar of Dawn Age), Karstanstead (Karstan Nine-with-One),
Ramsleap (Urothing Clan), Volsaxiland (Hero Volsax, Nightjumpers)
<<The Northvale description makes it possible that the Orvantes were a group of Silver Age survivors settling there after leaving some shelter with other, more powerful groups.(Joerg Baumgartner)>> |
| Garanvulli (Gansavulli?) Star |
Garan and Serias | Modern Hendriki Land, near Troll wood? Syphon River? (Old Land?) |
King Orvis (Before Darkness?), Jan Ironclad (Dawn Age) | From Dureving? | See Janfjord (Jan), Orvistula (Orvis)(DPG) Politically traded with Ezkankekko for Esrolvuli? |
| Sedenorvulli | Sedenor | Near of Shadow Plateau? (Old Land?) |
Bran? (Joerg Baumgartner) | From Dureving? | Related with Orvantes? See below. I think maybe they are perfectly not
from Vingkotling....politically traded with Ezkankekko for Esrolvuli? <<Bran may as well have been descended from the Sedenorvuli, who lived "north of Shadow Plateau". Their lands may have included Wild Temple in Beast Valley (which wasn't called that before the Remakers' experiments).(Joerg Baumgartner)>> |
Last Day of Heort and Orlanth's Secret Seventh Gate
From Thunder Rebels, Only thousands?
Joerg Baumgartner's opinion about the domain and size of Tribe.
Eleven Tribes of Heortling
Storm Tribe, p.137
Silver Age and Dawn
<<Heort was born after the Sword and Helm Saga events, when most of the Vingkotling world already was shattered, and life was a bitter fight for survival. It is possible that Darndrev's deer clan had gone over to the Orgorvaltes, who seem to have survived in a comparatively secure position. However, the Koroltes survived hardly in a weaker condition.(Joerg Baumgartner)>>
| Name | Founder(s) | Domain | Important Personalities | Note | Destiny |
| Koroltes Summer |
Korol Kandoros, a son of Vingkot and SW | Modern Grazeland (Korolstead?) Its Center was at Korolstead (Smoking Ruin Today: DPG) |
Heort's Winter Deer clan | Great Lawspeakers? See Hero Wars 1st Narrators Book (A Scenario for Koroltes) |
Forosilvulli was from them. As Heort descent from them, it might be the holiest tribe of Vingkotling. |
| Berenethtelli Winter |
Beren(eth) the Rider and Redaylda, a daughter of Vingkot and WW | Modern Upper Saird (Berenstead?) Maybe Rastalulf's Yinkstead is also center of power. |
Venef the Stallion and other line of Rastalulf Arlastor?(BCG) |
From North, Hyalorian? Red Headed Women? (Vingan?) | Later it became most Heroic Tribe among Heortling, you know Harmast. But
Lokamayadon and Palangio Iron Vrok most oppressed this tribe, I think. <<The Beren subcult of Elmal rather than Beren the husband for Charandar, I suppose. (not that there necessarily must have been a difference in the Godtime) Berenneth the Rider settled near the old Hyaloring lands in Saird. His tribe survived there until the breaking of the Second Council, when the Talastari under Lokamayadon systematically eradicated his people and lands, forcing the survivors to flee south into Heortland. (Joerg Baumgartner)>> |
| Orgorvaltes Summer |
Orgorvale, a daughter of Vingkot and SW and Ulanin the Rider | Quivin Land (Ulaninstead: DPG) |
Bran Great Beard? (Ancestor of Salvi the Good), Forthan (Forthanland),
Tantrell (Tantrell Hills)
See Starfire Ridge (Illavan Clan, "Argrath" fled from here),
Sacred Top? (Amilanth and Jeromar?), Tantrell Hills, Two Ridge Fort (their
Center of Power?), Ulaninstead (DPG)
Salvi of Locaem? (I am not sure Bran was Orgovaltes, see above about heortling boundary) (DPG) |
From East, Horse Lovers? (Elmali?) | Their Domain perhaps included Mystical Hill of Orlanth Victorious, and
Old and "New" Wind Temple. Maybe they became the core of Orlanth
Kingdom and Youf in 2nd Age. <<Two Ridge may have grown in importance after the Dawn, but at the Dawn the Orgorvaltes survived in Ulaninstead, near modern Wilmskirk..(Joerg Baumgartner)>> |
| Infithetelli Winter |
Infithe, a daughter of Vingkot and WW, Porscriptor the Cannibal | Modern Northern Tarsh (Deksarshall?) |
- | Savage and Furious, but loyal? | - |
| Vestantes Summer |
Vestene, a daughter of Vingkot and SW, Goralf Brown | Modern Southern Aggar (Goralfstead?) |
Tenostere Fightin'est Woman? | Axe People? Enemy of Aldryami? |
Later, this tribe was destroyed by Highking Alakoring for their support to EWF, and reformed into Tarkarling. |
| Penentelli Winter |
Penene, a daughter of Vingkot and WW, and Kastwall the Five | Modern North Aggar (Penentelada?) |
Rastazar (BCG) |
Most Emotional? Five Sons | In Gbaji War, they were almost all wiped out by Arkat Army, maybe they are strong converter to Lokamayadon or some sects of Bright Empire, or simply Troll enemy. |
| Stravuli | Stravul? | Around Grizzly Peak? (Iliastead, but it induces anger of Firstblood Tribe people for unknown reason. They call this place Stravulstead: DPG) |
(King Sarlanth and Kalanth the Plow Priest (DPG) Leikan, Harandangian? (BCG) Firstblood Tribe (Ilaro and its Dynasty: Some says that they also have blood of Alakoring...) (DPG) |
From Jorganostelli, remnants of Arrowmound War | Grizzly Peak (there Vingkot killed Grizzley and Heort was born), the Center of High Kingship and Earldoms might exist here? |
| Liornvulli | Liorn the Young, and Deleen, Kodig's daughter | Island Tribe...Kordros Island? Upper Oslir (Karfonstead: DPG) |
King Dargos and Queen Durlindi (Stampede of Dawn Age: DPG) | From Lastralgortelli (DPG) or Kodigvari (Jeff Richard) | After Dawn, the King of Stravuli kidnapped the wife of Liornvuli (like Paris did to Helene), so it caused the War of Stampede (See DPG p.30), Liornvuli took most of Stravuli Land and met doom of Gbaji War and Arkat. |
| Forosilvulli | Forosil the Ferocious, and Ornore, Korol's Daughter | Holay? (Uraldastead?) |
- | From Koroltes | Maybe from them, the tradition of Woman Queen began. |
| Garanvulli | Garan and Serias | Modern Hendriki Land, near Troll wood? (Iliabervor?) |
King Orvis (before Darkness), Jan Ironclad | From Dureving? | See Janfjord (Jan), Orvistula (Orvis) (DPG) Politically traded with Ezkankekko for Esrolvuli? <<The original Heortlanders of Vingkotling times. Their southern neighbors may have been Pelaskites or Durevings who later were adopted by the Ingareens of God Forgot. (Joerg Baumgartner)>> |
| Sedenorvulli | Sedenor | Near of Shadow Plateau? (Sedenorshill?) |
Volsax and Dreven? (Dawn Age: See Dreven Vale) Karstan?(DPG) | From Dureving? | Related to Orvantes? I think maybe they are perfectly not from Vingkotling....politically
traded with Ezkankekko for Esrolvuli? <<The Sedenorvuli lived north of Shadow Plateau, on Sedenorshill (not on any map) which was known for dolmen. This makes it likely that they occupied Beast Valley before the Remakers changed that place.(Joerg Baumgartner)>> |
Most of them disbanded or reformed on the cataclysm of Gbaji War....
<<As heortling is known for half-farming and half-nomadic, maybe
boundary is
not so distinct as I assume, (in one of my KODP games, when Colymer
ambassador came, I paid much more and joined Colymer Tribe as an enclave,
so maybe heortling tribes were mapped as patchworks, not distinct
regions....>>
<<Unless there were very binding reasons, these patchworks may have
re-formed via treaties etc. to grow into more coherent
parts over time.
On the other hand, I come from a land which historically
has been just
such a patchwork of lands, and in cases where a formerly
dominant tribe
was pushed out of large parts of their territory they may have
held on to
a few magically defended places. (Joerg Baumgartner).>>
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